Subj: Re: US Chess Federation3
Date: 11/21/2004 10:12:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: LWDubeck
To: Chessoffice, res1yb6k@verizon.net
CC: Beatchess, timothyhanke@comcast.net, stephenshutt@yahoo.com, bradyfm@msn.com, Chessdon, Randy.Bauer@iowa.gov, elizabethshaughnessy@hotmail.com, ESDOYLE, Ippy1, LWDubeck



I just read about 10 e-mails concerning the 2006 US Open bids.
 
1. The statements from Don Schultz about the New Jersey bid are outrageous.
The $5,000 sponsorship for the 2002 US Open did not materialize because of the USCF Office mismanagement and refusal to meet with the sponsor, John Hancock. Ask the then NJSCF President Herman Drenth or Glen Peterson about the USCf's INCOMPETENCE. Not only did their behaviour cost that $5,000 but  a good chance for a further $25,000. New Jersey did not complain about the USCF then: the thanks we get is to be attacked by Don Schultz now for USCF's stupidity. This time we will not go quietly into the night.
 
2. The Cherry Hill hotel has spent millions of dollars refurbishing all its hotel rooms.
 
3. The $115 per night for up to 4 people in a room are less than the room rates on your national scholastics--read the November Chess Life where the room rate for the Supernationals in 2005 is $129 single-quad!

4. Diane Reese did a fine job of improving the offer that the hotel had made to me. It is in the interest of USCF to make every bid as advantageous as possible from USCF's viewpoint.
 
5. Bill  does have a conflict of interest whne he deals with a hotel that he uses for CCA tournaments. I can't believe that you cannot see this, Don.

 
6. The NJSCF loaned USCF $5,000 when it needed it. Being attacked for wanting a disinterested party to make the US Open decision as being a "political payback" by Don is a nice way of thanking us.
 
7. Let me remind you that Chicago held a US Open (Helen Warren was the orgainzer) in 1989. In 1994 it was in Rosemeont, Illinois. No one complained about it being in the same state only 5 years apart. Now however, Mr. Goichberg not only opposes New Jersey holding it in 2006 but also in a written memo to NJSCF President Joe Ippolito Goichberg opposed New Jersy hosting the US Open in 2007, the exact same 5 years apart that Illinois held US Opens. So much for Brady's suggestion to consider 2007.

When he advocated considering the Louisivlle bid for the USCF office, Mr. Goichberg also was all for putting in Louisville many USCF national tournaments, including "the US Open (1200 room nights), which could be there at least once."  That wording (from a Goichberg
e-mail that I have) suggests that a US Open could have been placed in the same Louisville hotel more than once in the 10 year period.

concerned about a 1215 room night guarantee for the Cherry Hill hotel--anyone see a little difference in his judgement when it comes to New Jersey??

 
8. Something else to consider. If the $500,000 Maurice Ashley's open tournament is as much of a success as some think it will be in 2005, it will surely be repeated in 2006, in the midwest. Does anyone seriously think that such a mega open event will not have an impact on all other open tournaments in that region, including the US Open? If you think it will not,  would anyone like to wager that the 2005 event will not decrease the attendance at Goichberg's Chicago Open?  Dr. Leroy Dubeck

Subj: Re: US Chess Federation3
Date: 11/21/2004
To: Chessdon, LWDubeck, res1yb6k@verizon.net
CC: Beatchess, timothyhanke@comcast.net, stephenshutt@yahoo.com, bradyfm@msn.com, Randy.Bauer@iowa.gov, elizabethshaughnessy@hotmail.com, ESDOYLE, Ippy1



In a message dated 11/21/2004 10:54:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, Chessdon writes:

 

Subj: Re: US Chess Federation3
Date: 11/21/2004 10:54:37 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: Chessdon
To: LWDubeck, Chessoffice, res1yb6k@verizon.net
CC: Beatchess, timothyhanke@comcast.net, stephenshutt@yahoo.com, bradyfm@msn.com, Randy.Bauer@iowa.gov, elizabethshaughnessy@hotmail.com, ESDOYLE, Ippy1



Leroy blames Defies for the $5,000 fisaco and gives Herman Drenth and Glenn Peterson as first hand witnesses. I refuse to defend DeFeis, he was an abomination; so score one for Leroy.
 
I don't at all see Bill using a hotel he does business with in Chicago to get a better deal for USCF as anything but helpful. In any event Bill seems to have indicated the Sheraton in Chicago will give only a slightly worse deal with USCF and he has never done business with them.
 
I have stated, Leroy as a US Chess leader or the NJ Chess Federation both have every right to challenge Bill's decision but that is unnecessary at this point as the consensus of these dialogues seem to be having the EB decide. I'll save my critic of Leroy's other arguments below for that Board discussion.
 
Beatriz, I think it a wise idea to have both Bill and Leroy participate in what looks like a forthcoming EB teleconference to decide this.

 
In a message dated 11/21/2004 10:12:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, LWDubeck writes:

 

I just read about 10 e-mails concerning the 2006 US Open bids.
 
1. The statements from Don Schultz about the New Jersey bid are outrageous.
The $5,000 sponsorship for the 2002 US Open did not materialize because of the USCF Office mismanagement and refusal to meet with the sponsor, John Hancock. Ask the then NJSCF President Herman Drenth or Glen Peterson about the USCf's INCOMPETENCE. Not only did their behaviour cost that $5,000 but  a good chance for a further $25,000. New Jersey did not complain about the USCF then: the thanks we get is to be attacked by Don Schultz now for USCF's stupidity. This time we will not go quietly into the night.
 
2. The Cherry Hill hotel has spent millions of dollars refurbishing all its hotel rooms.
 
3. The $115 per night for up to 4 people in a room are less than the room rates on your national scholastics--read the November Chess Life where the room rate for the Supernationals in 2005 is $129 single-quad!

4. Diane Reese did a fine job of improving the offer that the hotel had made to me. It is in the interest of USCF to make every bid as advantageous as possible from USCF's viewpoint.
 
5. Bill  does have a conflict of interest whne he deals with a hotel that he uses for CCA tournaments. I can't believe that you cannot see this, Don.
 
6. The NJSCF loaned USCF $5,000 when it needed it. Being attacked for wanting a disinterested party to make the US Open decision as being a "political payback" by Don is a nice way of thanking us.
 
7. Let me remind you that Chicago held a US Open (Helen Warren was the orgainzer) in 1989. In 1994 it was in Rosemeont, Illinois. No one complained about it being in the same state only 5 years apart. Now however, Mr. Goichberg not only opposes New Jersey holding it in 2006 but also in a written memo to NJSCF President Joe Ippolito Goichberg opposed New Jersy hosting the US Open in 2007, the exact same 5 years apart that Illinois held US Opens. So much for Brady's suggestion to consider 2007.

When he advocated considering the Louisivlle bid for the USCF office, Mr. Goichberg also was all for putting in Louisville many USCF national tournaments, including "the US Open (1200 room nights), which could be there at least once."  That wording (from a Goichberg
e-mail that I have) suggests that a US Open could have been placed in the same Louisville hotel more than once in the 10 year period. Note that Mr. Goichberg estimates 1200 room nights for a US Open in Louisville, but is concerned about a 1215 room night guarantee for the Cherry Hill hotel--anyone see a little difference in his judgement when it comes to New Jersey??
 
8. Something else to consider. If the $500,000 Maurice Ashley's open tournament is as much of a success as some think it will be in 2005, it will surely be repeated in 2006, in the midwest. Does anyone seriously think that such a mega open event will not have an impact on all other open tournaments in that region, including the US Open? If you think it will not,  would anyone like to wager that the 2005 event will not decrease the attendance at Goichberg's Chicago Open?  Dr. Leroy Dubeck