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PostPost:31460 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
Mikhail is another person who will help get solid sponsors.

I am not going to vote for chess players. I am going to vote for people that can run the USCF Professionally and raise serious sponsorship money for chess.


I think you need to familiarize yourself with the facts.

It is apparently true that Mikhail Korenman received $251,000 in grant money from the State of Kansas to start the Karpov Chess School in Lindsborg Kansas. However, he spent all the money in pointless publicity stunts like bringing Gorbachov, Karpov and Polgar to Kansas to pose for pictures. This alone cost more than $50,000. Eventually all the money was lost, Korenman left town and the Karpov Chess School no longer exists.

Korenman then contacted the USCF, said that he had lost his job and asked for federation help. The USCF gave him $10,000 supposedly to "raise serious sponsorship money for chess". Not one dime has been raised. Korenman has not even reported what he did with the money.

Then Korenman asked a group of Chicago chess organizers for funds. They gave him $800. Korenman spent their money too and still has not done any of the things he said that he was going to do with it.

As a result, nobody in Chicago will give Korenman another dime.

You should consider these facts when deciding whether you really want Mr. Korenman to be on the USCF Board.

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PostPost:31497 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George,

You should also be aware that Sam Sloan has given us other scoops on Korenman:

 
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I am not aware that Mikhail Korenman is a college professor. I do not believe that he is a college professor.

Could you please provide the name of the educational institution where Mr. Korenman is on the faculty and the discipline of which he is a professor?

Also, Mikhail Korenman claims to have a Ph.D. degree. Since his English is poor, I am inclined to wonder whether he really has that degree.


In fact, he has a Ph.D. in Education from Kansas State and is Assistant Professor of Chemistry at Bethany College in Lindsborg, Kansas.

I am not saying that Sam is definitely wrong on his assessment of Korenman's use of money, but given his history of crying wolf about Korenman, I would want much better documentation than he has hitherto provided.
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PostPost:31498 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisfalter wrote:
George,

You should also be aware that Sam Sloan has given us other scoops on Korenman:

 
samsloan wrote:
I am not aware that Mikhail Korenman is a college professor. I do not believe that he is a college professor.

Could you please provide the name of the educational institution where Mr. Korenman is on the faculty and the discipline of which he is a professor?

Also, Mikhail Korenman claims to have a Ph.D. degree. Since his English is poor, I am inclined to wonder whether he really has that degree.


In fact, he has a Ph.D. in Education from Kansas State and is Assistant Professor of Chemistry at Bethany College in Lindsborg, Kansas.

I am not saying that Sam is definitely wrong on his assessment of Korenman's use of money, but given his history of crying wolf about Korenman, I would want much better documentation than he has hitherto provided.


In 2004, I visited Lindsborg on behalf of the Executive Board. Mikhail Korenman was, indeed a professor at Bethany College, showed me around the campus and introduced me to the college president, who praised Mikhail's contributions to the college. You can do a simple Google search and find much information about his professional career, both at Bethany College, at Kansas State University, and in Russia. Mikhail is a very accomplished individual.
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PostPost:31508 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisfalter wrote:
George,

You should also be aware that Sam Sloan has given us other scoops on Korenman:

 
samsloan wrote:
I am not aware that Mikhail Korenman is a college professor. I do not believe that he is a college professor.

Could you please provide the name of the educational institution where Mr. Korenman is on the faculty and the discipline of which he is a professor?

Also, Mikhail Korenman claims to have a Ph.D. degree. Since his English is poor, I am inclined to wonder whether he really has that degree.


In fact, he has a Ph.D. in Education from Kansas State and is Assistant Professor of Chemistry at Bethany College in Lindsborg, Kansas.

I am not saying that Sam is definitely wrong on his assessment of Korenman's use of money, but given his history of crying wolf about Korenman, I would want much better documentation than he has hitherto provided.


You should probably say that he was, not that he is.

A search of the website of Bethany College in Lindsborg, Kansas will show that no such person is associated with that institution.

You keep making statements that are easily proven to be false. Try to start checking your facts before posting anything.

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PostPost:31509 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I typed "Mikhail Korenman " into google. At the top of the list was the link to this page. http://batgirl.atspace.com/lindsborg.html
On that page was this bit of info.

...Dr. Mikhail Korenman was born March 29, 1962 in Nizhniy Novgorod (Gorky), Russia. He is married to Dr. Tamara Korenman and they have two daughters. After a successful career in education in Russia, he moved his family to the U. S. in 1994, went back to school and received his PhD from the Kansas State University in 1999. He was hired to teach chemistry at Bethany College in Lindsborg....

So then from the Bethany College site
http://www.bethanylb.edu/contentm/gen/bethany_college_generated_pages/Faculty_p634.html

is this bit of info
Korenman, Dr. Mikhail - Part-Time instructor of Chemistry
Which may not be true anymore but is still there indicating that he was an instructor at Betheny.

I didn't go to the Kansas State University site but at this point in time I find myself believing Mikhail Korenman is as educated as he claims to be.
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PostPost:31514 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wzim wrote:
So I typed "Mikhail Korenman " into google. At the top of the list was the link to this page. http://batgirl.atspace.com/lindsborg.html
On that page was this bit of info.

...Dr. Mikhail Korenman was born March 29, 1962 in Nizhniy Novgorod (Gorky), Russia. He is married to Dr. Tamara Korenman and they have two daughters. After a successful career in education in Russia, he moved his family to the U. S. in 1994, went back to school and received his PhD from the Kansas State University in 1999. He was hired to teach chemistry at Bethany College in Lindsborg....

So then from the Bethany College site
http://www.bethanylb.edu/contentm/gen/bethany_college_generated_pages/Faculty_p634.html

is this bit of info
Korenman, Dr. Mikhail - Part-Time instructor of Chemistry
Which may not be true anymore but is still there indicating that he was an instructor at Betheny.

I didn't go to the Kansas State University site but at this point in time I find myself believing Mikhail Korenman is as educated as he claims to be.

Please note that the above states that Mikhail Korenman was a "Part Time Instructor of Chemistry".

However, his running mate Randy Bauer claimed that Korenman was an "Assistant Professor of Chemistry".

There is a tremendous difference between being a pert time instructor and being an assistant professor.

So the truth is that at best Mr. Korenman used to be a part-time instructor in a small town college, a position I could probably get if I applied for it.

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PostPost:31516 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samsloan wrote:


So the truth is that at best Mr. Korenman used to be a part-time instructor in a small town college, a position I could probably get if I applied for it.

Sam Sloan


Unfortunately, Sam, your critics are constrained by ethics and a respect for truth. This gives you an advantage.

 
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He has quit his job as assistant chemistry professor at nearby Bethany College to devote himself full-time to the game he loves—and to teaching students, who affectionately call him Misha.
-- National Geographic, May 2005


Sam's assumption that everyone is as willing as he to invent and repeat self-serving falsehoods is, shall we say, dubious. Note that this is not an endorsement of Korenman, of whom I express no opinion. I merely point out that this exchange should provide more dirt for the long-overdue burial of the egregious Sloan.
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PostPost:31518 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samsloan wrote:
wzim wrote:
So I typed "Mikhail Korenman " into google. At the top of the list was the link to this page. http://batgirl.atspace.com/lindsborg.html
On that page was this bit of info.

...Dr. Mikhail Korenman was born March 29, 1962 in Nizhniy Novgorod (Gorky), Russia. He is married to Dr. Tamara Korenman and they have two daughters. After a successful career in education in Russia, he moved his family to the U. S. in 1994, went back to school and received his PhD from the Kansas State University in 1999. He was hired to teach chemistry at Bethany College in Lindsborg....

So then from the Bethany College site
http://www.bethanylb.edu/contentm/gen/bethany_college_generated_pages/Faculty_p634.html

is this bit of info
Korenman, Dr. Mikhail - Part-Time instructor of Chemistry
Which may not be true anymore but is still there indicating that he was an instructor at Betheny.

I didn't go to the Kansas State University site but at this point in time I find myself believing Mikhail Korenman is as educated as he claims to be.

Please note that the above states that Mikhail Korenman was a "Part Time Instructor of Chemistry".

However, his running mate Randy Bauer claimed that Korenman was an "Assistant Professor of Chemistry".

There is a tremendous difference between being a pert time instructor and being an assistant professor.

So the truth is that at best Mr. Korenman used to be a part-time instructor in a small town college, a position I could probably get if I applied for it.

Sam Sloan


First, Mikhail is not my "running mate" although I think he would be an excellent Board member. More importantly, the "truth" is that Sam cannot even keep elementary facts straight. In the above exchange, it was Chris Falter who made the claim about Mikhail's professional title, not me. It's pretty revealing that Sloan constantly harps about facts but cannot quote them himself. Now I would hope to see a retraction and an apology from Sam Sloan, but I will not hold my breath.
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PostPost:31520 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Chris not Randy said Mikhail is an Assistant Professor, then that he was an Assistant Professor.

Sam's right that there's a big difference between a full-time faculty member (tenure track in a school that grants tenure, which I don't know if Bethany is or not) and a part-time instructor.

It's possible that he was an Assistant Professor, then changed to part-time status with his move to Chicago and goes back occasionally to teach, teaches over the internet, etc. This could all be checked with a phone call to Bethany.

Mikhail should lay out the details of how he raised and spent money. Getting the State of Kansas to fund him to do his work in Lindsborg seems like a very good thing and we want to know the whole story.
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PostPost:31523 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

artichoke wrote:
...Sam's right that there's a big difference between a full-time faculty member (tenure track in a school that grants tenure, which I don't know if Bethany is or not) and a part-time instructor.

It's possible that he was an Assistant Professor, then changed to part-time status with his move to Chicago and goes back occasionally to teach, teaches over the internet, etc. This could all be checked with a phone call to Bethany. ...
Yes, artichoke, there is a difference between the two. But after Mr. Sloan's initial lies on the subject and his unwarranted attack on Chris, he get's no "partial credit" from me. First Mr. Sloan tells a whopper, THEN he says that CHRIS should check his facts!
 
samsloan wrote:
...A search of the website of Bethany College in Lindsborg, Kansas will show that no such person is associated with that institution.

You keep making statements that are easily proven to be false. Try to start checking your facts before posting anything.

Sam Sloan
Hasn't Mr. Sloan learned yet that people WILL check his statements and WILL report the TRUTH?

BTW, from a previous Bethany College Catalog (2003-2004) that IS available on-line:
 
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DR. MIKHAIL KORENMAN (At Bethany since 1999)
Assistant Professor of Chemistry; Director of International Programs; B.S., Gorky State
University (Russia); M.S., Voronezh State University (Russia); Ph.D., Kansas State University.

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PostPost:31532 Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In response to Sloan's slur on my character, I shall mention that I was relying on the following page:

http://www.intecsus.org/staff.html

Here is the text from that page (I have highlighted one crucial word):

Dr. Mikhail Korenman has a Master's Degree in Chemistry from the Voronezh (Russia) State University and Doctor of Philosophy Degree in Education from Kansas State University. Dr. Mikhail Korenman is currently an Assistant Professor of Chemistry at Bethany College in Lindsborg, Kansas.

Note that his position as assistant professor is presented in the present tense. The page is possibly a bit out of date, but I had no way of knowing that just by looking at it.
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chrisfalter wrote:
In response to Sloan's slur on my character, I shall mention that I was relying on the following page:

http://www.intecsus.org/staff.html

Here is the text from that page:

Dr. Mikhail Korenman has a Master's Degree in Chemistry from the Voronezh (Russia) State University and Doctor of Philosophy Degree in Education from Kansas State University. Dr. Mikhail Korenman is currently an Assistant Professor of Chemistry at Bethany College in Lindsborg, Kansas.

Note that everything is in the present tense. The page is possibly a bit out of date, but I had no way of knowing that just by looking at it.


Dr. Korenman would make an incredible board member. The USCF would be lucky to have him. He is a big asset to US Chess and the USCF. You can just ask Mr. Ralph Bowman, one of the most important person in Kansas Chess about Dr. Korenman and what he has done for chess in Kansas.
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PostPost:31546 Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

samsloan wrote:
the truth is that at best Mr. Korenman used to be a part-time instructor in a small town college, a position I could probably get if I applied for it.

(emphasis mine)

Sam is attacking Dr. Korenman's reputation, and he's doing so with reckless disregard to the truth. Dr. Korenman was indeed an assistant professor of chemistry at Bethany College; among other things, the Bethany 2003-2004 catalog lists him as such. And even before Sam launched this attack on Dr. Korenman's credentials, Randy Bauer had explained that when he met Korenman, Korenman was in fact an assistant professor.

Therefore Sam also seems to be suggesting that either Korenman deliberately misled Randy Bauer, or Bauer deliberately misled us. Compare these 2 quotes, which are in chronological order:

 
Randy Bauer wrote:
In 2004, I visited Lindsborg on behalf of the Executive Board. Mikhail Korenman was, indeed a professor at Bethany College....


 
samsloan wrote:
Randy Bauer claimed that Korenman was an "Assistant Professor of Chemistry"....

There is a tremendous difference between being a pert time instructor and being an assistant professor.

So the truth is that at best Mr. Korenman used to be a part-time instructor....


So what should we say to Sam Sloan about this? Here's a suggestion:

 
samsloan wrote:
You keep making statements that are easily proven to be false. Try to start checking your facts before posting anything.
 

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PostPost:31579 Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be overlooked is the fact that Sam Sloan also took an unwarranted swipe at a fine educational institution.

According to http://www.college-profiles.com/university_directory/bethany_college.html, Bethany College admittees have an average SAT of 1110 and an average GPA of 3.4. This is not Ivy League, of course, but it's certainly above average.

And it is a 4-year institution, not a 2-year community college.

The idea of Sam Sloan being accepted to the faculty of Bethany College is quite humorous--just as the idea of Chris Falter's teaching at Bethany College would be humorous. Neither of us possess a postgraduate degree.

Again I ask: does Sam Sloan manifest the type of leadership that would help the USCF build viable relationships with other organizations and people? Or would potential partners tend to get pushed away by Sam Sloan's rhetoric?
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PostPost:31700 Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: To the USCF EB member, Mr. Sloan Reply with quote

Mr. Sloan,

I am honored that the USCF EB member spent time to check out my background. I am really appreciating it. Especially if it took some time from your busy schedule to do non-stop attacks to the chess in the US. I would be very happy if you can spend more time investigating my activities with chess and it would save more chess programs around the country from your personal involvement.

Now, I would like to help you a little and save some of your personal time. I am happy that you searched the Bethany College web site. Looks like the College got a very valuable reader. You could simply visit www.yahoo.com and type my name. Sometimes it helps to save some time. Here is one of many links proved that I was Bethany College Assistant Professor of Chemistry and Director of International Programs - http://cars.acck.edu/news/Letter/2002/02.pdf

You posted the following on the Forum:

 
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A search of the website of Bethany College in Lindsborg, Kansas will show that no such person is associated with that institution. You keep making statements that are easily proven to be false. Try to start checking your facts before posting anything.


So, your fact is not really correct. I would be waiting for your public apology.

Your next comments were about the grant I received. Again, thank you very much for using your valuable time to investigate it. Hope, it saved some other chess club/program form your great investigations.

 
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It is apparently true that Mikhail Korenman received $251,000 in grant money from the State of Kansas to start the Karpov Chess School in Lindsborg Kansas. However, he spent all the money in pointless publicity stunts like bringing Gorbachov, Karpov and Polgar to Kansas to pose for pictures.


Just for your information, Mr. Sloan, that the grant was received through the KS Department of Commerce and the chess program helped to generated over $2,000,000 in economic impact to the Lindsborg community of 3,200 people. You can contact Lindsborg Chamber of Commerce directly to verify this information. Sorry, you forgot to mention it. Oh, yes, you also forgot to mention Lindsborg Open tournaments with FIDE norms and players from 20 different countries who plaid there. Not good, Mr. Sloan. Something was missing in your investigation …

 
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This alone cost more than $50,000. Eventually all the money was lost, Korenman left town and the Karpov Chess School no longer exists.


Well, how about www.anatolykarpovchessschool.org You did not have a chance to visit this web site. See, I helped you tremendously to save some time. The Karpov chess school has never been closed. Moreover, just yesterday they announced an open position to hire a new Director. Perfect timing. I think, in English in means that you lay again. I would be waiting for your public apology. Not to me. To the Karpov chess school in Lindsborg.

Well, here is the last great statement:

 
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Then Korenman asked a group of Chicago chess organizers for funds. They gave him $800. Korenman spent their money too and still has not done any of the things he said that he was going to do with it. As a result, nobody in Chicago will give Korenman another dime.


Unfortunately, a little problem here, Mr. Sloan. I did not ask anyone for any money in Chicago. I had a signed contract to organize the event. And, it was private source who donate money for such event to cover this cost. Your source of information unfortunately was not correct again! Need to apologize, Mr. Sloan.

Regarding the statement that nobody in Chicago is given me any money. Another little problem, Mr. Sloan. I just start receiving some sponsorship money (and I contacted 2 people who knows about that) and planning to set up some chess events in South Chicago suburban’s that are not in a chess word, yet. Little problem here again! But this time, it is OK. It is just new information. You don’t need to apologize again.

Next time when you need any additional information, you are welcome to check with me. I may (!!!) try to help you. At the same time, I would be happy to give you some weekly assignments (remember, I am a teacher!) so you can spend some time with your homework. What is the name of the elementary school I went in Russia?
Hope, it would save some club/program from any of your personal attacks ….

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PostPost:31885 Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Sloan, here would be a proper place to attempt to rebut Mr. Korenman. I personally thought his thoughtful response to your attacks was enjoyable to read. Are you capable of eaqually thoughtful comments.

I would think this would be a great skill for future EB members to exhibit.

No tantrums. No unsubstantiated comments. Just thoughtful commentary please. Oh, apologies would be a good touch and a mature response.
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PostPost:31935 Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Korenman, I would like to respond to your remarks.

You have demonstrated to my satisfaction that my remarks were to some extent inaccurate or incomplete.

However, the real problem here is that it seems that you are very good at raising and then spending Other People's Money.

However, we at the USCF already have our own experts at spending Other People's Money on the board. I dare say that our own experts are in the world class and are even better at spending more of Other People's Money than you are (not to denigrate your proven abilities in this regard).

However, what the USCF needs right now is somebody interested in saving money, and that is obviously not your forte.

Sorry,

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PostPost:31938 Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Sloan,

I think you have some problems to understand what grant money are supposed to be used for. I am sure that this is not your area of expertise. I was somehow successfull on raising funds through the grants. You may check some records from Kansas State University where our program received over $750,000 in Federal and State grants. (This might be another good puzzle for you to check! Hope it will take some time from your busy schedule). Just for your information, the grant money are given to the organizations that can prove that they will spend the money exactly as they proposed. And today I am very proud that the grant from the State of Kansas I "spent" for chess. Exactly as it was proposed. And, yes, it generated national and international positive (!!!) media coverage for chess. There are not too many programs (unfortunately) that were covered by NBC, PBS, NPR, National Geographic, New York Times, LA Times, and hundreds of state and local newspapers around the country.

To save the money you should first generate them. And I am not sure that I am familiar with any programs you personally was involved that generated (!!!) both funds and positive (!!!) publicity for chess in the US. Oh, yes, I forgot, your name is almost at all publications covering any problems with the chess. Or, maybe you are personally involved somehow to generate such problems?

I am not going to start any dialog on this topic and will not respond to any new posts you may publish related to this topic. I have not found anything in your last post with words "sorry, I was wrong accusing you with ...". It will be good for the EB member to learn some of these words. I think ...

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PostPost:31940 Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must agree that Mikhail Korenman has given a very good answer to my questions.

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I think you need to familiarize yourself with the facts.

It is apparently true that Mikhail Korenman received $251,000 in grant money from the State of Kansas to start the Karpov Chess School in Lindsborg Kansas. However, he spent all the money in pointless publicity stunts like bringing Gorbachov, Karpov and Polgar to Kansas to pose for
pictures. This alone cost more than $50,000. Eventually all the money was lost, Korenman left town and the Karpov Chess School no longer exists.

Korenman then contacted the USCF, said that he had lost his job and asked for federation help. The USCF gave him $10,000 supposedly to "raise serious sponsorship money for chess". Not one dime has been raised. Korenman has not even reported what he did with the money.

Then Korenman asked a group of Chicago chess organizers for funds. They gave him $800. Korenman spent their money too and still has not done any of the things he said that he was going to do with it.

As a result, nobody in Chicago will give Korenman another dime.

You should consider these facts when deciding whether you really want Mr. Korenman to be on the USCF Board.
 

 
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You should probably say that he was, not that he is.

A search of the website of Bethany College in Lindsborg, Kansas will show that no such person is associated with that institution.

You keep making statements that are easily proven to be false. Try to start checking your facts before posting anything.
 

 
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Please note that the above states that Mikhail Korenman was a "Part Time Instructor of
Chemistry".

However, his running mate Randy Bauer claimed that Korenman was an "Assistant Professor of Chemistry".

There is a tremendous difference between being a pert time instructor and being an assistant professor.

So the truth is that at best Mr. Korenman used to be a part-time instructor in a small town college, a position I could probably get if I applied for it.
 

 
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Mr. Korenman, I would like to respond to your remarks.

You have demonstrated to my satisfaction that my remarks were to some extent inaccurate or incomplete.

However, the real problem here is that it seems that you are very good at raising and then spending Other People's Money.

However, we at the USCF already have our own experts at spending Other People's Money on the board. I dare say that our own experts are in the world class and are even better at spending more of Other People's Money than you are (not to denigrate your proven abilities in this regard).

However, what the USCF needs right now is somebody interested in saving money, and that is obviously not your forte.

Sorry,
 


Sam, what questions? I see nothing in the above quotes that remotely resembles a question. Instead I see you trying hard to besmirch another candidate's reputation by making false statements about their past achievements in the academic world and their past chess-related fundraising efforts, and telling OTHER posters to get their facts straight.

By the way, I doubt many people, either in the chess world or out, would call the gathering of of two well-known names in chess and A FORMER PRESIDENT OF A SUPER-POWER NATION (or any other nation, at that) a "stunt". I would call it a noteworthy achievement. That they were gathered for a chess-related event is even better, especially in regard to Mr. Korenman's candidacy.

To quote Eddie Murphy, "What have YOU done for me lately?" Now, that's a good example of a question.

Hoping for more decent behaviour from an elected representative,

Jonathan
 

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